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#1 AndyF

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 01:33 PM

These things have happened ever since there were programs :(

Mid to late 80's:

whilst you're confessing about your activities at Micro User shows in the 80s, are you also going to confess to the real reason you were so keen to try your custom "graphics demo" floppy on various stands?


As it happens I was referring to your "graphics demo" floppy that quietly downloaded any ROM images from the host machine, whilst it displayed a series of pretty graphics. You had a series of excuses to offer to the staff on the stands to cover why the floppy drive was being constantly accessed


Slightly edited it to make more sense here.

Came up in a mailing list I subscribe to (and occasionally read), the discussion was actually nothing to do with this subject at all, merely someone decided to express themselves I guess. The rom images were software (as on these machines it was common to offer them in rom form to prevent copying and utilities usually were rom form anyway)

I do remember previously to this, when software came on cassette (!) , tape to tape was quite prolific (and no I did not have any, before anyone asks) even back then. Software manufacturers came up with ever more ingenious methods of preventing it, Lenslok (Google for is) was probably one of their best ideas, unfortunately it did not take people long to simply circumvent said system out of the code.

Was just surprised at this 'statement' really, given what the 'demo' was actually doing.

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 01:14 AM

lol remember the cassettes well and hate to admit it but I still have a box in the loft :rolleyes:
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Posted 17 August 2010 - 05:22 AM

still got my commadore 64 with the cassettes things :D.
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Posted 17 August 2010 - 08:09 AM

I used to work for a company that sold software on cassette - I got fired because I told customers the reason why their software always failed was because we had to make up new cassettes by using a dual cassette machine and copy from one to the other - not some posh device - just a home portable stereo with dual cassette drives.

I just told customers that is was rubbish. LOL

We would get multiple calls a day from unhappy customers - and I just got fed up with supplying them with inferior software.

Oh and I was a Vic 20 man ;)

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 10:02 AM

lol remember the cassettes well and hate to admit it but I still have a box in the loft :rolleyes:

still got my commadore 64 with the cassettes things :D.

I still have (most) of mine too :blush:

I used to work for a company that sold software on cassette - I got fired because I told customers the reason why their software always failed was because we had to make up new cassettes by using a dual cassette machine and copy from one to the other - not some posh device - just a home portable stereo with dual cassette drives.

I just told customers that is was rubbish. LOL

We would get multiple calls a day from unhappy customers - and I just got fed up with supplying them with inferior software.

Oh and I was a Vic 20 man ;)

Should of used this:

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Or something like it. What's really clever about it is, it actually locates itself and runs from the screen memory, so larger (lol) programs can also be ran through it without running out of address space.

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 11:38 AM

Jeez its good to know i'm not the only ol' git knocking around here then ;) :lol:

Its stunning really when you think back and realise how quickly things have come and how far it could all go in the very near future :D
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Posted 17 August 2010 - 11:51 AM

Its stunning really when you think back and realise how quickly things have come and how far it could all go in the very near future :D

True, very true :)

Although the more simplistic times were fun too.

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 11:32 AM

yea gotta agree Andy lol 30 minutes typing just to see a stick man run across the screen :lol:
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Posted 18 August 2010 - 12:05 PM

yea gotta agree Andy lol 30 minutes typing just to see a stick man run across the screen :lol:

Should be able to write something to do that in about 10 minutes (maybe less) ;) , although creating the graphic (UDG) would take longer :(

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 10:38 AM

Interesting related video, discussing the piracy epidemic in 1984...

http://www.itnsource...21/AS210584001/

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 04:45 AM

Brilliant find Andy, sad but I really enjoyed that "flashback" and reminder :w00t:
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Posted 29 August 2010 - 06:12 AM

Brilliant find Andy, sad but I really enjoyed that "flashback" and reminder :w00t:

I do have a couple more, although they are not piracy stuff, more a look back.

Home computing boom of 1983 (Vid is dated 8th Sept '83)

http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITN/1983/09/08/AS080983005/


I've got a selection of (about 9 mins each) 'new' clips but together showing games from 82 to 90 mostly Sinclair. They are actually a good watch, I'll get the links for them later if interested as I just downloaded mine to watch offline.

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 07:05 AM

Brilliant stuff m8, I luv these looking back vids / clips tbh makes you really see how fast everything has moved forward, kinda makes you miss some of the old days when most people wouldn't dream of ripping each other off and showed repect for others efforts, even pirates did so with morals and worked within a certain "code of conduct" nowadays that has been lost and it has become a free for all :( its all "ME" now as more and more have jumped on the bandwagon, they forget it was all about hitting against the "man" and there soaring prices :lol: hark at me getting all nostalgic ;)
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